LIVE INTERVIEW ON CNN WORLD NEWS BY LOU WATERS ON 16 APRIL 1990 AT 17:15, recorded at New York CNN Studios, right after the end of the session of the Human Rights Committee, just before taking the plane to fly back to Geneva -- it was rather stressful..

On 13 April 1990 Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbatchov formally apologized to the Polish nation, admitting Soviet responsibility for the NKVD massacre of Polish POWs at Katyn, near Smolensk, in 1940. Dr. Alfred de Zayas, an American historian, points out that Katyn represents only the tip of the iceberg, that the bulk of Soviet crimes are yet to be investigated -- the killings and deportations of the Baltic and Polish intelligentsia, the GULAGs the eenforced starvation, the Stalinist purges.

After discussing Katyn, Waters asks de Zayas about his new book on the Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau and its methods. The book appears on the screen.

Waters: The overdue Soviet admission that it was Stalin's secret poliice, the NKVD, that murdered 15,000 Polish prisoners of war at Katyn and elsewhere in the Soviet Union in 1940 should be followed by further admissions and investigations concerning other massacres of the Stalinist period.

American historian Alfred de Zayas today charged that the Soviet Union is full of mass graves wehre the NkVD disposed of millions of Soviet citizens -- Ukrainians, Belorussians, Tatars, Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Poles -- perceived to be political or religious opponents of the regime.

Zayas: During the Second World War the invading German Army discovered many of these mass graves, but no one believe them. Shortly before retreating from the Katyn area, the Germans discovered pits containing an estimated 50,000 civilians, indicating that the Katyn forest had been a frequently used execution ground for the NKVD. At Vinnitsa the bodies of 10,000 civilians killed in 1938 had been found, at Lviv the victims of Stalin's terror were estimated at 12,000. Other massacres occurred at Dubno, Luck, Sarni, Brzerznaz, Tarnopol, Dorpat, etc.

Waters: de Zayas backs up his charges with abundant documentation and interview testimony in his new book, the Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau, published by the University of Nebraska Press in Lincoln, Nebraska. .

Book appears again on the screen